The Baptism with the Holy Spirit: the Nature of the Experience

It has been established from earlier posts on this topic that being filled with the Holy Spirit is a distinct experience. Like other supernatural feats, it has its outward and definitive features.

If you study the Acts of the Apostles, you’ll find out that when people were baptized with the Holy Spirit, they began to speak with other tongues.

It’s from these biblical events we infer that speaking in tongues is the initial evidence of the baptism in the Holy Spirit. Please note the term initial, because there are other evidences that follow it.

At Pentecost, the believers at the upper room “were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance” (Acts 2:4).

While Peter ministered to the household of Cornelius, “the Holy Spirit fell upon all those who heard the word… the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out… For they heard them speak with tongues and magnify God. (Acts 10:44-46)

When Paul ministered in Ephesus (about 20 years after the day of Pentecost) to the disciples there, “he laid hands on them, the Holy Spirit came upon them, and they spoke with tongues and prophesied.” (Acts 19:6)

There are only two instances where it wasn’t specifically mentioned that the recipients of the Holy Spirit baptism spoke in tongues. The first was in Samaria after Peter and John laid hands on the believers and they received the Holy Spirit (Acts 8:15-17).

However, it’s clear that there was an outward sign that accompanied that impartation of power. Simon the Sorcerer who was supposedly converted under Philip’s preaching, saw something:

“And when Simon saw that through the laying on of the apostles’ hands the Holy Spirit was given, he offered them money, saying, “Give me this power also, that anyone on whom I lay hands may receive the Holy Spirit. (Acts 8-18-19)

How could Simon have known the Christians were been filled with the Holy Spirit after hands were laid on them if there was no outward evidence of it?

A manifestation must have registered on his physical senses that the Holy Spirit power was received by those prayed for to have stimulated his crave for this power. It couldn’t have been been rejoicing. The Samaritans already had “great joy” even before they were filled with the Holy Spirit (vs. 8).

Simon certainly didn’t see the Holy Spirit – He is invisible – but he saw a supernatural evidence of His presence which he thought he could purchase with money.

Just as thousands of people could “see and hear” when the disciples were filled with the Holy Spirit after Pentecost and spoke in new tongues, there was also an outward evidence in Samaria (Acts 2:33).

In the light of the consistent record of the evidence accompanying the Holy Spirit baptism, one can say that the Samaritans also spoke in tongues. One can also respectfully disagree with this, but there should be an outward sign that one is filled with the Holy Spirit.

The second example is that of Saul of Tarsus’ experience after Ananias prayed for him to be filled with the Holy Spirit:

“And Ananias went his way and entered the house; and laying his hands on him he said, “Brother Saul, the Lord Jesus, who appeared to you on the road as you came, has sent me that you may receive your sight and be filled with the Holy Spirit.” Immediately there fell from his eyes something like scales, and he received his sight at once; and he arose and was baptized.” (Acts 9:17-18)

Nothing is said about him speaking in tongues here, but later, Paul himself said:

“I thank my God I speak with tongues more than you all.” (1 Cor. 14:18). He must have started speaking in tongues from the time he was filled with the Holy Spirit. Or, he was bestowed that gift along the line.

Jesus had already mentioned that one of the supernatural signs that will follow believers is that “they will speak with new tongues” (Mark 16:17).

I’m aware that many people have sought to explain away, dismiss and outright deny this passage of the Bible, but the fact still remains that all the signs listed there are supernatural, and to strip Christianity of the supernatural is tantamount to putting God in a carefully constructed box of our own making.

If these supernatural signs are not evident in the life of a believer at some point or the other, it’s not due to God’s inability, it’s the fault of individuals and what they’ve chosen to believe.

Whenever a person is baptized with the Holy Spirit, there will be some gift that is imparted. These gifts are given to each one severally as the Holy Spirit wills, not as we dictate (1 Cor. 12:7, 11).

The more you surrender yourself to the disposal of the Holy Spirit, the more He will use you and select you for the kind of service He wills for you.

To accept Christ and reject His gifts is like a bride who agrees to marry a groom but rejects his ring – the seal of their covenant. What do you think will befall their relationship?

The baptism of the Holy Spirit is intended to clothe us with supernatural power from on high so we can be witnessss of Jesus Christ (Acts 1:8). It also empowers our prayer life and helps us to pray in accordance with the will of God (Romans 8:26-27; Eph. 6:18).

In every bible passage where the results of the baptism with the Holy Spirit are mentioned, they are related to testimony and service. It has to do with gifts for service rather than with graces of character, so it has no direct reference to cleansing from sin.

Jesus Himself, though the only unique Son of God, didn’t enter upon His ministry until the Spirit of God had come upon Him, and was “anointed with the Holy Spirit and power” (Acts 10:38; Luke 4:1, 14-18)

Therefore, the Holy Spirit baptism is not a substitute to knowing the Word of God, crucifying the flesh and other elements of Christian living.

Contrary to what some Christians have been made to believe, the Holy Spirit baptism is not a “once for all” experience. For instance, Peter is said to have been filled with the Holy Spirit on three different occasions (see Acts 2:4, 4:8 and 4:31).

We need a new filling of the Holy Spirit for each new emergency of Christian service. The Christian walk is a lifelong path. From the point of the initial experience of being baptized with the Holy Spirit, we must continually seek to be refilled.

If any believer doesn’t have this experience today, either he has been taught not to claim his privileges in Christ or he has been misled by certain teachings or stories that are aimed at sowing the seeds of fear and doubts into the minds of God’s people. Let me share my personal experience in this regard.

As a Christian teen, thirsty for the waters of knowledge, I read several Christian books. Some of the books that influenced my thinking at the time were by Rebecca Brown.

In her books Prepare for War and Becoming a Vessel of Honor, she touched on the subject of baptism of the Holy Spirit. It would take years for me to realize that she was so grossly misinformed about the subject that it would have been hilarious if it weren’t so tragic.

She depicted the Holy Spirit baptism as an experience that is so complicated and suspicious that if you seek it, you will end up with demons of false tongues and you might end up with afflictions or even become gay or lesbian!

So I decided I didn’t need it in my life because I wasn’t sure if I asked the Lord for that gift, He might put a snake in the package to discipline me for violating His rules. I would sometimes pray to be filled with the Holy Spirit, but I didn’t want that initial evidence of speaking in tongues.

Even when I felt the power of God on me during fervent prayer and prayed in tongues in the dream, I still thought I could be deceived if I spoke out as the Spirit was giving me utterances. What a hold the lying spirit from that book had on me!

That changed on January 21, 2005 when I was seeking for an admission into LAUTECH. A Christian friend I discussed this with introduced me to his friend, one brother Akin, a prayer warrior in his fellowship.

I visited his place and we discussed. Merely listening to him, I felt my spirit stirred up to pray and seek the Lord (when you are listening to a Spirit-filled believer speaking, you will know it).

When I objected to the baptism with the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues with possibility of being infested with a demon, he cited examples in the Bible and gently warned me about taking a popular author as my final authority.

He pointed me to Acts 2:38-39 and asked me to read it out loud. I did. He then asked me what it meant and right there, the spiritual veil imposed on me by a book putatively “exposing the devil” fell off my eyes and I realized that as a believer, God wants to bestow the gift of the Holy Spirit on me.

He asked if I was ready to receive it and I answered in the affirmative. My faith had geared up that Friday evening. He took me to the back of the building and we began to pray together, asking the Lord to fill me and I felt the power of God fall upon me and I staggered and right there, I began to pray loudly and boldly in tongues. I was so happy.

I lost contact with brother Akin after then (not many people had mobile phones back then), but his parting words was that I should continue to build myself up by praying in the Spirit.

This experience radicalized my life and opened the door to the supernatural for me.

The infilling of the Holy Spirit is for every believer, not just for the pastors, prophets, evangelists or a special class of very holy Christians.

Real Spiritual Warfare or Mere Satanic Hysteria?

Growing up in the 90s, we heard lurid tales about the Church of Satan. Many of these stories were passed on from person-to-person – usually from a pastor to his congregation to friends and family, then neighbours to classmates and on to another pastor and his congregation.

It was a self-perpetuating and self-authenticating circle of narration, with each narrator embellishing the tale with his/her imaginative details. Of course, this chain of transmission wasn’t limited to Nigeria. It spread across several countries in Africa.

We were told that the Church of Satan founded by Anton LaVey in the US, mimics the Christian Church, but literally worships Satan and sacrifices humans to appease their horrific god along with involvement in cannibalism and vampirism.

Bill Gates, Michael Jackson, Celine Dion, Madonna Ciccone and other music stars or influential celebs were tagged as members, and many of us were warned to avoid being bewitched by their seductive charms.

In fact, I was told by a friend that Madonna had sex with Satan and has dedicated all her music albums to the prince of darkness. How he knew this with certainty boiled down to the authority of “someone who knew something.”

Just as we have people today who morbidly see the Illuminati or the New World Order behind every vice and world event, back then, Hollywood, degrading music, porn – even HIV – were all attributed to the bestial acts of the Church of Satan!

The current recrudescent panic about “satanic” vaccines, biochips, 666 mark or “invisible radiations being used to track people” which has filled the right-wing conspiracy lunatic fringe, is nothing new. Only the alleged culprits and minor details have switched over the years.

Those days, there were no Internet with which you could verify stories, you just had to take the word of “my pastor or my friend who knows someone abroad said…” as evidence.

To make it worse, some American Christian books which seemed to provide information on Satanism, circulating in Africa at the time, were by Rebecca Brown.

Her books contained sensational, hysteric and patently embellished tales which further accentuated the gross misinformation and urban legends being spread about Satanism in Nigeria.

Her books failed to rightly distinguish between the various orders of witchcraft (e.g. “white” witchcraft, Neopaganism and black witchcraft) and different satanic groups (e.g. the difference between traditional or theistic Satanism and LaVeyan Satanism) but dubiously lumped everything together, hence, many people ended up believing that the Church of Satan (CoS) fits the depictions conveyed in her paranoid-inducing books.

Again, many Christians were influenced by the world of make-believe (particularly Nollywood) which were ironically based on incorrect portrayals of the occult and spiritual warfare.

For instance, several scenes of satanists vanishing into thin air or turning into fish, snake or dog as a pastor holding a big Bible was confronting them, were a staple, even in Christian movies.

These were the “amunitions” that gave rise to certain scenarios in some Nigerian Christian books on spiritual warfare where you have agents of Satan running for the hills or instantly confessing to their evil deeds once the name of Jesus was mentioned by a pastor.

Many of these tales and thinking followed me into my adulthood until I began to research on the occult, and gain a biblical understanding of spiritual warfare. It was then I realized that much of these things do not always happen in such ways as depicted in those books – at least not physically.

Now, in the above tweets, you’ll notice a common pattern of approach by both Destined Charles and Femi-Fani Kayode: a hysteric, reactionary and “Nollywoody” back-and-forth Twitter war with a Satanist.

First of all, if they had known something about LaVeyan satanists, they would have known they are basically atheists. They don’t believe in the existence of God or Satan.

The CoS’s definition of Satan is of an archetypal force of balance existing in nature which they tap into and use it for their own selfish will. Of course, we know that’s just a philosophical euphemism to describe the powers of darkness, but it’s a more subtle system that requires wisdom and insight from the Christian.

Let me say it here that the LaVeyan satanism is an innocuous group which operates one of the lowest levels of demonic energy in Satanism. There are more powerful underground satanic covens where all kinds of debased, insidious and evil acts are being perpetrated, whilst the CoS is just an official, legal, self-identified organization. It doesn’t represent or speak for all of Satanism.

Spiritual warfare has to be fought with knowledge, not ignorance. Apostle Paul said, “I do not fight like a boxer beating the air” (1 Cor. 9:26).

That was from a man who preached in the core demonic cities of Europe in the first century. He wasn’t going from place to place binding and casting Greek or Roman gods like Jupiter, Hecate, Diana or Thor. Instead, he went forth to preach the gospel that liberates souls from their powers.

Yes, preaching the gospel is the rudimentary aspect of warfare. That is why our feet is to be shod with the equipment of the gospel of peace (Eph. 6:15). This is what we use to crush the heads of spiritual serpents and scorpions.

That’s why the devil hates it when you preach the gospel because you are symbolically crushing his head. But misinformed Christians want to directly take on big battles with satanists on the Internet without first starting from the base level of spiritual warfare.

Another thing to note is, spiritual warfare is not and should not be motivated by flesh – a desire to show off one’s power, to impress the audience or garner attention to self. It is not a war against flesh and blood; it involves a believer using spiritual weapons under the direction of the Holy Spirit (2 Cor. 10:4).

Any “spiritual” warfare that emanates from a personal life of falsehood, or a fleshy reaction to “fix” an opponent or a desire to retaliate against perceived disrespect, will make one a laughing stock before the enemy.

In instances where Christians directly addressed demon spirits working through human vessels or pronounced spiritual judgement on a physical enemy in the New Testament, it was to defend the Gospel of Christ, not self – the very carnal nature that empowers the enemy.

For example, when Elymas the sorcerer, was trying to prevent the Roman proconsul, Sergius Paulus from accepting the gospel and becoming saved, Paul pronounced judgement on him. But take note of what happened before he spoke:

“Then Saul, who is also Paul, filled with the Holy Spirit, looked intently at him and said, “O full of all deceit and all fraud, you son of the devil, you enemy of all righteousness, with you cease perverting the straight way of the Lord? And now, indeed, the hand of the Lord is upon you and you shall be blind, not seeing the sun for a time…” (Acts 13:9-11).

You can see that he was filled with the Holy Spirit at that moment. Therefore, his words were not the product of his own fleshy reaction to opposition, but represented God’s sovereign judgement on the sorcerer, uttered by the Holy Spirit. This proved the supremacy of Jesus over Satan, without any hysteric back-and-forth.

When you truly have the power of the Holy Spirit, you don’t need to stage any show. And you can’t go into war with the enemy with a memorized method devised by men solely inspired by emotion. It has to be backed up by the Word of God and directed by the Holy Spirit.

Lastly, here is another inconvenient truth. Some things are meant to stay here on earth until the very end. For instance, no amount of prayer can kill demons or banish the devil from this earth. He will always have his loyal followers at each generation of mankind.

From the book of Revelation itself, you can see that even after the Second Advent of Christ, after the Millennial reign, Satan will still marshal his armies together from various nations to wage war against the Lord’s people, and that will ultimately seal his eternal doom.

But until then – when all the enemies of God are stripped of their powers and sent to eternal perdition – you cannot render Satan and all his vessels “useless and powerless in Jesus’ name.”

I believe that the Church in Nigeria truly needs to receive some balanced, biblical teachings and unlearn some legends and shameful errors about the occult and spiritual warfare. Then, our approach to those involved in the occult, would be more measured, mature, spirit-filled and Christ-honouring.

An Exchange on Unbroken Racism and Rebecca Yoder’s Heresies

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After my previous post on Unbroken Racism, Fanaticism and Paranoia, one of Rebecca Yoder’s loyal fans named SaintAdama, responded on Facebook and I replied to his comments. Eventually, it thinned out to a monologue (just as I predicted).

I particularly welcomed his critique because he’s a guy who follows my page and appears to be knowledgeable.

Aside from that, he will be the first individual to come to Rebecca Yoder’s defense since 2016 when I began to openly expose the pair on this blog.

His words appear in blue.

Well, I have personally read about 4 of Rebecca Brown’s books and I do not see anything wrong with them. Though I am yet to read unbroken curses. I think you may be over reacting.

I have a copy of “He came to set the captives free” here. Please can you mention the pages where she refer to the African-American couple as Mr and Mrs Black or Negro? Let me check it.

If you don’t see anything wrong with any aspect of her books, then you need to check your discerning level. Even back then when I was her loyal fan, I found some of her stories hard to relate to.

If you have not read Unbroken Curses, then you can’t be saying I’m overreacting.

The part you asked for is in chapter 19 titled Straight Talk To Those Who Want to Come Out of the Occult. It’s also available online.

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[Responding to another commenter]:

No! She is not too conscious of demonic activities. I think anyone who is not called into a ministry as she is called will find it hard to understand her.

She is called into HARD CORE spiritual warfare. This involves intense battle with demonic forces and in this battle, you would need to be able to discern spirits and that is why one of the gift of the Holy Spirit is DISCERNMENT … I have found her teachings to be scripturally sound.

Saint Adama, I will appeal to you to apply that discernment you speak of.

I once read about a case of a food vendor in the streets of New York who sold a bagel and cream cheese sandwich with a cockroach in it. Would it kill his customer? No, but it will cause problems.

Imagine someone telling that customer to ignore the bug in his food and focus on its sweet taste. That’s the issue with false teachings. Not all of them kill, because they are often mixed up with ice cream.

To be clear, Rebecca Brown had some things right. I can even say that she got a clearer perspective of certain issues than some pastors. But that doesn’t mean everything she taught was true or biblical.

In fact, I have stated it over and over that I will not recommend her book for any Christian because they also contain some damaging statements, misinterpreted bible verses, contradictions, fictitious claims, demonic obsession and full-blown paranoia.

I still remember the level of mistrust her book, Becoming a Vessel of Honor, put in my heart at the age of 16.

I have documented these in my previous post and a three-part series and this [latest] one.

Read it first, check out what is being discussed, then we can dialogue. Let’s not be closed minded. Otherwise, what will be achieved will be a mutual monologue.

Her book: Becoming a vessel did not put any mistrust in my heart. I agree with you that her book should not be recommended for a New Christian because her books are certainly not for baby Christians. They are for the matured who are capable of handling strong bones and deep things.

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I read the post twice to actually understand what the fault is. But I have not read her book titled: Unbroken Curses. The ones I have read are : Becoming a vessel of honor (in the master’s service), Prepare for War, He came to set the Captives free and Standing on the rock. These are the four of her books that I have read so far. And presently I have the last 3 of them listed in the house here.

If I am to judge by the quotes extracted from her book (Unbroken curses) as given in the post, personally I didn’t see anything wrong with what she said about Africa except that she did say all of it. What I mean by “she didn’t say all of it” is that she seem to be ignorant of the fact that the Western powers are also complicit in many of the violence and wars that have ravaged the black continent.

Apart from that, I do not see how wrong she is in saying that the whole continent of Africa is Characterised by tribal warfare

Absolutely wrong. The vast majority of North Africa was conquered by the Arabs. The southern region and several other countries were held in the tight grip of [western] colonial powers. The people had to fight to be free.

that each tribe is consequently ruled by demon gods

Such as? Let’s start with Nigeria. It has no less than 200 ethnic groups. Please, tell me the demon gods controlling each one and how you came to realize this marvelous truth.

because the people of Africa have never broken away from the sins of their forefathers

That’s completely untrue. And you as an African ought to be more informed about your own continent than a sequestered Westerner writing from the Ozarks mountains of Arkansas.

Can you compare the level of idolatry in any state in Nigeria with what was described 50, 60 or 100 years ago when the colonialists first landed on our shores?

How many pagan shrines are still standing and being patronized? How many adherents of paganism do we have in South Western Nigeria alone?

that the whole history of Africa has been incessant warfare and massacres among tribes

Unfortunately, that statement trades on the ignorance of folks who assume Africa is a country rather than a continent.

Can you speak of the whole history of Nigeria alone and conclude it’s of tribal warfare? No. Then you can’t speak for the whole of Africa consisting of many countries.

The sins of the fore fathers which she claim the Africans have not broken from is simply IDOLATRY. Is this not true?

Not at all. That’s why you ought to have read the book first or read the [post] carefully. She said sins (plural). She referred to them as “demon worship and hatred and warfare” (p. 32).

I argue that such sins are also in the West, East, North and South of the world. Why are they not dying like flies like “cursed” Africa? Are you following my gist? Please do.

I know how rampant the worshipping of idols were in my hometown before the light of Christianity came to my land.

Yes. Which gives a lie to the statement that “The people of Africa have never broken away from the sins of their forefathers.”

And how can there be CHRONIC IDOLATRY in the land without that land becoming a STRONG-HOLD of demonic entities? How?

That’s a question for her and her fans. You already said there isn’t any more chronic idolatry even in your home town, so tell me how we are still being wasted by our tribal gods – even regarding African Americans in the U.S.

Every land given to idolatry becomes heavily infested with demonic presence. The idols our fore fathers worshipped were actually demon gods.

The same goes for America, Europe and Oceania. So no Westerner should reduce idolatry to Africa when it was well established in every ancient culture.

In some place, apart from tribal gods, there are also clan gods and also family gods right down to personal or individual gods. Each tribe, each clan, each family, each person have his/her own idol which represent demon gods.

Well, I don’t see them. We know people used to cleave to them, but that is no longer the case as you admitted earlier. So let’s educate ignorant non-Africans who still view us with the eyes of the past.

Did you know that Islamic insurgency played a big part in the war in Somalia which Rebecca Brown was referring to? So how is that also the work of African tribal gods when Allah had dominated the public space?

So what Rebecca said about tribal gods is true.

Not true, as I have shown. She doesn’t blame the pagan gods of Wicca, Masonry or New Age movement for violence among the white race, why did she feel convenient to do the same for Africans?

Is the Jesus that saved us different from the Jesus that saved the whites?

As I type, if you go to some parts of Nigeria now, you find tribal war going on. I heard that the Urhobos and Itshekiri don’t interact, always fighting.

And that’s somehow the fault of tribal gods? No? Could those fights be due to communal land dispute? Political clashes? Religious intolerance? Conflicting traditions? Bitter competition? Is war always monocausal and pinned to idols?

One of Nigerias biggest problem is tribalism. So what she said about tribal wars is also true.

No, you are conflating two different things. Tribalism is a real problem, but not tribal warfare.

When was the last time thousands of Igbo fought and killed thousands of Hausa? Do the Yoruba murder Fulani in wars? What about the Bini and Nupe, do you hear them chanting war songs?

We might be intolerant to a degree, but not in the way Rebecca characterizes us. White-on-white murders also occur in her America but people don’t attribute it to the clash of pagan deities. Why?

One thing we need to understand is that the idols worshipped by ancestors are demon gods and demons are not peace makers but war mongers. They can trigger war anytime, anywhere, ANYHOW.

But since we have broken with many of those idols, discarded their corpus and many of their servants have turned to the Lord Jesus, their influences (should) have diminished. Rebecca Brown is out of touch and irrational.

If the ancestors of a particular tribe have dedicated the whole tribe in their service to an idol (demon god), you can be sure that that demon has a legal right to keep operating in that tribe down the line of generation and every curse associated with that also follows.

So that’s why blacks are killing blacks in America. Very interesting. Whatever happened to redemption.

Curses are simply negative demonic effects and influences.

Agreed.

Let us put aside racial bias and be honest with our selves.

I’m afraid, that’s a message the Yoders may need to have tattooed on their foreheads.

Personally, I think the reason why the African continent is backward in terms of development and prominence has to do with the Curse Noah placed on Canaan the son of Ham.

That was what some racist western preachers said, but they are wrong. You are a well-read guy, I don’t expect you to fall for that hogwash.

We know that the Sons of Noah are the ancestor of every nation in the world today. And I believe that Africans descended from Canaan.

No. Africans have never descended from Canaan.

So it doesn’t surprise me that Africans are behind the Europeans and Asians im terms of development and advancement.

But many of the Asians are more devoted to idols than us.

Could it be that we have vision-less leaders and myopic followers? Could it be selfishness? Corruption? Faulty structures? Injustice? Please don’t let’s spiritualize what humans have caused with their own hands

Some will argue that Africans were once upon a time dominating the world. That is true. But what happen that Africa now seem to be perpetually relegated to the background?

Of course, when folks share Rebecca Brown’s unbalanced thinking that idols of centuries ago are still holding us back in spite of decades of persistent spiritual warfare, they will keep being relegated to the background.

I wonder if you are even aware of current scales of development in Rwanda, Kenya and South Africa. Their tribal gods are not strong enough, I guess.

Yes, the Europeans came and did this and that and colonised and over took. Whether what they did was good or bad, is inconsequential. What matters now is that Africa has been conquered and dominated for so long. That is the effect of a curse.

Well, African leaders are the ones conquering and dominating their own people. Mugabe and Omar Al-Bashar are two recent examples.

Since 2008, out of 13 heads of state who have died in office, 10 are Africans. Our joke of a democracy allows leaders to sit tight in office as if it’s an autocracy, loot the treasury and eventually die in a foreign hospital. But no, let’s blame those nasty curses on Ham.

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Do you mean to tell me that demons, principalities and powers do not influence the daily life and affairs of a person or group of people? Is that what you are saying?

No, that’s not what I’m saying. They influence the lives of the unsaved, but that’s not the original argument made in Rebecca’s book which is the point of dispute.

She said both Christians and non-Christians are dying in Africa because of the sins of their forefathers.

That tribal gods are wasting us because they are controlling us here and abroad. That is part of what I’m objecting to.

By the way, you can tag me in the previous posts which you want me to read. Let me read and know what misinterpreted bible verses, contradictions, fictitous claims, paranoia and demonic obssessions you are talking about. Thanks.

Here they are: one|two|three|four

The content of the first article you shared looks so familiar. I have seen it on Google search results when I was looking for Rebecca Brown’s book.

When I saw it, I thought, well, Satan is not going to sit around and do nothing against Rebecca for taking his captives.

Satan will unleash the might of his forces both humans and spirit against anyone who threatens his domain. And there are many ways he does that.

Whenever I see all such criticism against her, I recall that her books has challenged me to draw much closer to God and to be extremely serious with my relationship with God.

She challenges me to study my bible more, pray more…etc. And on that note, I mark her as a true servant of God.

What you just said now is the argument people use to protect a false teacher they have come to love and become loyal to.

If you replaced the word “Rebecca” with “Rev. King” and a host of them, nothing would change in your comment.

To those who follow Ellen White, Charles Russell, Joseph Smith or Norman Vincent Pearl, every question levied against their teachings or bad actions – no matter how rational, biblical or factual – is dismissed as an attack from Satan.

He/she has rescued captives from Satan, so the enemy stands up and uses people (including yours truly) and spirits to discredit him/her.

If this is your best answer to all that has been presented, that’s fine. But I’m highly disappointed. I thought were sharper than that.

In a way, Brown’s books helped too but that doesn’t make Rebecca a true servant of God. Why? Because even a bad person can show you the right way. Yet her books still did much damage to me.

We know of people who have been rescued from their past life of crime by Jehovah’s Witnesses, Mormons and even Santeria. But does that make those religious groups true? No!

I started to question her ethics when I found out that there’s nothing really new in the good she wrote. She too read Christian books and gave out what she had gleaned from them.

See, the name of Jesus will always work; the Word of God will always work even if the vessel is apostate.

Nothing Rebecca and Daniel wrote makes them “experts”. Most of their stories have been discredited biblically and factually.

If they are telling the truth, let them come out and defend themselves, but first apologize for those glaring lies and false accusations against their critics.

It’s not Satan that’s trying to stop Rebecca and Daniel Yoder. It’s Christians who want the truth and nothing but the truth who are putting off her books (even Jack Chick who worked with her did, after seeing the evidence mounting).

I pray you too realize what I did.

The biblical test that we may use to catch false teachers is clearly stated in the bible and emphasized by Rebecca Brown.

1 John 4:1, “Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.”

The sure test for any spirit or prophet is in their testimony or teaching about Jesus. If you apply the test to Jehovah’s witness, they will fail. If you apply it to RCC, they will fail. If you apply it to Santeria, Mormon etc they will all fail.

But Rebecca passes it.

Sighs. This isn’t working. This guy parrots Rebecca Brown too much to reason through this exchange.

He doesn’t realize that the “criterion” Rebecca gave was self-serving. I pointed out in one of the posts linked to above that the real test of a true spirit or prophet is the harmony of their teachings with Scripture.

He dismissed all the arguments I presented and skipped over the many problems with his hero’s life and teaching. There’s no way to go with this.