There’s a write-up titled “Interview: Bible and Qur’an Each to Prove Itself” I came across recently and I want to use it to illustrate how weak and silly islamic reasoning can be.
“What is your name? Bible: I don’t know! Quran: my name is Quran (Sura 36:2 ‘By the Quran, full of wisdom’)”
This reveals the ignorance of the writer. The Bible refers to itself as “the book of the Law” (Josh. 1:8), “the Scriptures” (Mt. 22:29), “the book of the Lord” (Isa. 34:16) and “the Law and the Prophets” (Mt 5:17).
The word ‘Bible’ is from the Greek word ‘Biblio’ which simply means ‘Book’.
The Quran refers to the Bible as “the Book” (2:101) or “the Torah [Law]…[and] the Injil [Gospel]” (5:46). Note: the Quran’s reference to itself in Sura 36:2 is to the oral recitations since it wasn’t existing in book form at the time.
“Where did you come from? Bible: from people. Quran: from Allah (Sura 45:2 ‘The revelation of the Book is from Allah…’)”
The Bible says it is “God-breathed” (2 Tim. 3:16) and “the Word of the Lord” (Ps. 33:4). The Quran in Sura 45:15 says “I believe in the Book (of the people of the Book [Bible]) which God has sent down.”
It also calls the Bible “a testimony from Allah” (2:140) “the Criterion of right and wrong” (21:48) “a guide and mercy” (46:12) “book from God” (3:22).
This is where the inconsistency of Islam rears its head. The same Bible Muslims assail is approved as God-inspired by their own Quran.
This poses a dilemma for them because to accept what the Quran says about the Bible is to reject it, since it contradicts the Bible.
Muslims weasel their way out of this pit by claiming that: One, the Bible the Quran talks about is lost and two, the Bible has been corrupted.
These two claims are false and insipid. To assert that the Quran is divine but the Bible is not, is dishonest, incoherent and intellectual suicide.
“Did you (Bible) tell your people to go to church on Sunday and you (Quran) tell your people to go to mosques on Friday? Bible: No. Quran Yes (Sura 62:9 ‘O ye who believe! When the call is proclaimed to prayer on Friday (the Day of Assembly), hasten…)”
There is a sleight-of-hand trick here by Quranic translators. A more accurate version says “…When the call is heard for the prayer of the day of congregation…”
The Arabic says yawmi al-jumuati meaning “day of assembly”. The word “Friday” is not in the text, but Ali, Hilali, Shakir and Khalifa inserted Friday into their own versions. Why? Because Islam is based more on the hadiths.
Most of its major rites are not in the Quran. For instance, there is no Quranic verse about the rite of circumcision, the tawaff, Hijra ceremonies, stoning the Devil, kissing the stone or use of “prayer beads.”
If this writer has read John 20:1, Acts 20:7 or 1 Corinthians 16:2 and the reasons Christians observe Sunday but still insists on his claim, his blindness deserves an award.
“Did you call your religion Christianity and your religion Islam? Bible: No. Quran: Yes (Sura 6:125 ‘Those whom Allah willeth to guide – He openeth their breasts to Islam)”
The Muslim is committing a fallacy of equivocation here. He is importing his own Islamic worldview into the Bible, sorry, it won’t fit in. Christianity is a not a religion, it’s a personal relationship with a Living Saviour, Jesus Christ.
On the other hand, Islam is an impersonal religion based on observing some rituals and blindly emulating a man long dead and gone.
The word translated as “Islam” here is “lilislami” which means “submission” – it’s referring to a concept rather than a fully developed religion – which Islam wasn’t at the time.
While Allah says in Sura 6:125 that he decides who becomes Muslim, Sura 3:85 says that those who reject Islam will go to hell. Is this a sane belief? I think not.
It’s like a teacher saying to his students, “I alone decide who will pass or fail my subject. Whether you study or not, it depends on my decision, but if you fail my subject, you must be expelled!” Won’t you suggest such a teacher is taken to a mental facility? Yet this is the plan of the god of the Quran.
“Is the word ‘Trinity’ existed in you? Bible: No. Quran: Yes (Sura 4:171 ‘Say not ‘Trinity’: desist…)”
So the Quran is divine because it has the word ‘Trinity’? What an inane argument! Note that the word “Trinity” is not in the Arabic text.
A more accurate translation says “…and say not ‘Three’ Cease!…” The Arabic word for Holy Trinity is al-thaaluuth al-aqdas, but this text has thalaathatun which means “Three”.
If Allah says we must not say “three”, why then does the word occur in the Quran (2:196, 2:228, 3:41, 4:3)?
What amuses me is how Muslims like to attack the many English translations of the Bible whilst pretending as if there are no conflicting English translations of their Quran.
[Note: Having realized that this is the most stupid argument in their playbook, Muslims have now replaced this with the following]:
Why do you have so many scientific errors? Bible because l’ve made many many silly mistakes. eg. I said that “the rabbit chew its cud”(Leviticus 11:6)
Quran: I don’t have a single scientific error. e.g I said that “moon light is a reflected or borrowed light from the sun” therefore I am compatible with modern science (sura 25:61).
By way of reply. In Lev. 11:6, the Bible makes reference to rabbits that “chew cud” even though they don’t chew cuds like ruminants. They undergo what is termed “reflection” in which they take up their dung and chew on it to get out partially digested food which they re-chew.
The Hebrew word for “chew” there is “alah” which means to bring up. It’s rendered elsewhere as “brought up” (Jos. 24:17) and “offering up” (1 Sam. 7:10).
The word for cud, “gerah” means grain or berry of low value, which hints at reflection in rabbits but the nearest English word the translator could use was “chewing the cud.”
The Binomial classification of living organisms was formulated by Biologists in the 19th century, so to expect an ancient writing to conform to such late categories defies all logic.
Now what does Sura 25:61 says?
“Blessed is He who made constellation in skies and placed therein a lamp (sun) and a moon giving light.”
Notice, what the text says obviously differs from what the “scientific miracle” disciple wants his readers to believe.
Another spoof there is that the Arabic word “noor” used here for the moon means “direct light” which is scientifically wrong, whereas the word for an object emitting light is “munir.”
When you have to resort to bare-faced lies to promote your religious book, then it only reveals that your religion can only spread by lies.
“Why do you contradict yourself in many places? Bible: because I came from people and no man is perfect. Quran: I have no single contradiction (Sura 4:82 ‘…Had it been from other than Allah, they would surely have found therein much contradiction’)”
Here the Muslim is appealing to the prejudice of his readers “why do you contradict yourself in many places” such as…? As for the Quran:
Who takes the soul at death? Is it the angel of death (32:11), angels generally (47:27) or Allah (39:42)?
How many days did it take Allah to destroy Aad? A day (54:19) or several days (41:16, 69:6,7)?
Sura 52:25 says there will be “mutual enquiry” in paradise while Sura 23:101 says the exact opposite “neither will they question one another”.
Sura 3:42-45 tell us several angels appeared to Mary while Sura 19:17-21 say it’s just one angel.
Sura 10:92 says Pharaoh was spared while Sura 28:40 and 17:103 say he drowned.
Suras 39:73, 4:30 and 57 and 21 say there will be only one garden in paradise, yet to our amazement, Suras 18:31, 22:23 and 35:33 say there will be many gardens there.
Even on the question of what man was created from is confused. Sura 96:1-2 says man was made from blood clots, Sura 21:30 says it’s water, Sura 11:61 says from earth, yet Sura 19:67 says we are made from “nothing!”
On the basis on Sura 4:82, we therefore declare the Quran as wholly man-made.
“Why do you allow people to keep changing you? Bible: because they made me “How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of God is with us? Lo certainly in vain made he it: the pen of the scribes is in vain” (Jer 8:8). Quran: no one can change me (Sura 85:21-22)”
The Muslim writer is assuming what he is yet to prove. He has not presented any evidence that the Bible “keeps changing” while his Quran has been well preserved.
This is what prejudice does to the mind over a long period of time. It has a blunting effect. This is why it takes an extremely prejudiced person to support the above myth with Jeremiah 8:8 when its very next verse says:
“The wise men are ashamed, they are dismayed and taken: lo they have rejected the word of the Lord: and what wisdom is in them.”
Verse 9 has a logical connection to the statement in vs 8. It’s not saying the Bible is being changed, but rather, because the people had rejected the Word of the Lord, even if the scribes wrote more copies for them, it is in vain.
Muslims are taught that their Quran descended hot from heaven and the original tablet is still in paradise. But if we take the Quran to determine who brought it to earth, we end up being confused.
Sura 2:97 says Gabriel brought it. Sura 16:102 says it’s the Faithful Spirit, sura 15:8 says angels (plural) brought it and Sura 81:19-24 says it’s Allah himself and that Muhammad saw him.
According to the Concise Encyclopedia of Islam (ed. Cyril Classe 1989, 123), the Quran was preserved on “pieces of papyrus, flat stone, palm leaves, shoulder blades and ribs of animals, pieces of leather, wooden boards and the hearts of men.”
If the Quran descended from heaven, then Muslims will have to explain why there are no better materials on which writings can be preserved in their “heaven.”
The fact is, the Quran was written and compiled down here on earth and it was even poorly done that majority of its parts were lost before it could be collected into a book. The men who memorized it lost their heads at the battle of Yemama after Muhammad’s death.
According to Caesar Farah, “When Muhammad died there existed no singular codex of the sacred text” (Islam: Beliefs and Observations, New York, 1987, 28).
The interview is over, the Bible stays.